Myth or Reality

Pablo Zaragoza Author Interview

Pope Joan follows a woman who defies all odds when she disguises herself as a man and rises through the ranks in the Catholic church and secures the position of Pope. Where did the idea for this novel come from?

I came across an article about the myth or reality of a female who became pope. Her real identity as a woman was revealed when her water broke in public, and she began to deliver a baby. According to the legend, she was stoned to death as she was about to enter one of the churches in Rome. I started to imagine how a woman back in those days, when a woman was heavily restricted, could climb the ladder through the church to become pope. What was her back story? My curiosity soon took over, and I did extensive research on the times in which she lived and the struggles she had to endure to succeed and become Pope Joan.

Can you share a little about the research that went into putting your book together?

The Internet offered a wide range of great resources to help me locate specific materials: timelines, biographies of people who lived during the age that I was interested in, places that housed certain religious orders, and the ongoing conflicts of the age. Generally speaking, I have had a fascination with the Middle Ages and now have a small reference library dedicated to the Crusades and the Reconquista.

What was your favorite moment in Joan’s story? Is there one scene that resonates with you?

I was most touched by Joan’s time in prison when she was awaiting execution. What was going through her mind? Surely, the uncertainty of being executed or not weighed heavily and gave her a feeling of dread. But also she thought about the safety and well-being of her child. No matter how old children are, their parents want to know they are safe.

Will your next book be historical fiction? What are you currently preparing for your fans?

I have written and my editor is currently finalizing my next historical fiction novel, Kitty Schmidt: My Life as a Prostitute. Kitty managed the Gestapo’s brothel during World War II. How did she find herself in this position? Did she have a family? What happened to her during the bombing of Berlin and the subsequent Russian invasion of the city? I wanted to explore all of these aspects of her life.

Author Links: GoodReads | Amazon

In this twelfth century historical tale, Joan, a young girl, rebels at her father’s insistence that she marry a fat, ugly oaf. Joan had come to know a young priest, Andrew, and when the time was right – and with his encouragement – they flee the town and travel backroads to various monasteries. Joan soon learns how to wrap her body to disguise her gender, and her contralto voice helps her further to fit in as a male in monasteries where she and Andrew find refuge.

While Andrew pursues the world of numbers and accounting, Joan becomes an avid student, learning to love reading and acquiring knowledge, eventually – through a string of circumstances – propelling her to higher and higher offices within the church and finally becoming the first and only female pope.
How long does Pope Joan keep her gender a secret?


Posted on March 8, 2025, in Interviews and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 1 Comment.

  1. Such a wondrous tale and historical to boot! I love our journey back into times that tried men’s and women’s souls

Comment

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.